Curse

Sir Pandra Pierva · Mar 25, 2008, 09:57 PM // 21:57

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Originally Posted by Savio

Weapon switching is important for any class, caster or non-caster.

casters can get away with it though.

Pyro maniac · Mar 25, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

casters can get away with it though.

It's PvE, warriors can get away with it as well
The OP should be just fine with completing all 3 campaigns with his bar. Still is a bad bar tho.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Mar 25, 2008, 10:25 PM // 22:25

in pve you can take no skills and complete the game.

Tyla · Mar 25, 2008, 10:50 PM // 22:50

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Originally Posted by rike1

I run a W/Me general PvE Warrior and the only question ive ever had about his gear is the sword hilt.

It's Warrior, not Tank.

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I currently use a vampiric hilt because after asking around and not knowing what to use myself, people said it was the best.

Overall, it is infact, the best.
Sundering has absolutely no damage potential on Swords.

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But I just don't see it. I just really cannot see the benefit. I always find myself losing more health in a fray from attacks and regen than I EVER gain back from the life steal.

The Vampiric mods are not really for self-heal.
They're for more damage, and armour-ignoring damage at that.

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This leaves me with a sundering hilt, furious hilt, and elemental hilts.

Sundering is bad on Swords, Furious is just bad, Elemental is only really good when used against other Warriors.
Vampiric gogo.

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1. I'd like to try and do this without switching weapons.
2. If I cannot, what do I need to use for what situation?

Just set it to the F keys (F1, F2, F3 and F4.), you get used to it.

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Might as well edit in skills:

Galrath slash
Final thrust
disrupting blow

These are my attack skills. Rest are defense/res/stances/shouts ^_^

Can you name those other skills?
By the way, Sever Artery + Gash is your Deep Wound -- -20% health, and healing, and makes things die ever so faster.

Consider using them.

Crom The Pale · Mar 25, 2008, 11:35 PM // 23:35

I really do understand where he is coming from. Untill you actually see the damage dealt by a realy good build like Dragon Slash you can't fully apreciate just how little damage your dealing with a slightly broken build.

With Dolyak + Defy Pain you will take very little dmg and have great survivablilty, the problem is your not going to dish out any where near the amount of damage you could with a different build.

Take your build to the Master of Damage(on training grounds next to Balthazars Island) and attack him for about 30seconds. Most good warrior builds will average 60-100 damage per second there with a death occuring between 6-10seconds.

If your build does not fall into that range then the other party members you play with will have to make up that difference in damage.

Also if your playing with the hench monks then I understand your lack of faith in thier abbility to keep you alive, however a real person monking a party is so far superior to the hench that you would likely never need to heal yourself in most missions/quests.

Kern Wolf · Mar 25, 2008, 11:41 PM // 23:41

To the OP:

If you're satisfied with your build (meaning, it works for you), then I'd suggest doing this:

-get some req. 9 swords;
-try to pick up a bunch of different sword mods (hilts and pommels)
-mod some of the swords up, and try them out on some side quests to see how effective they are with your build.

You know what skills work for you; it's just a matter of taking some time to find out what type of modded sword might add to how your build is set up. Everyone here (as you can read) has really different opinions on what makes an effective weapon--the fact is, there are a lot of different modded swords that can work, depending on your build. Take some time, and read about what the different mods can do, take a look at your build, and see if any of them can add to what your build is set to do.

For all the advice people are giving, it's not them playing the game, it's you, so what works for them may not work for you. You say your build is great---that's cool, but you've got to invest some time in trying out some different swords to see what works for you.

Good luck...

Trvth Jvstice · Mar 26, 2008, 12:07 AM // 00:07

Just get an elemental dmg mod and forget about it. The type of skills and attributes you use are what really determines your damage output. Using a vampiric mod will increase your dmg slightly, but it's not worth the hassle of constantly switching weapon slots if you're just a casual PVE player.

A little extra advise: Never post the skills you're using unless you've researched the forums and pvxwiki and are using a skillbar that has been accepted by the GWG community. Otherwise, your thread will be derailed by people that will rail on you about your (in their words) HORRIBLE skillbar. If you want advise on sword mods, leave it at that. If you were to post the absolute best build and substituted one unusual skill the rest of the thread would be about that skill instead of your question.

kobey · Mar 26, 2008, 01:20 AM // 01:20

The build is fine. It will work as long as the heros has good skillbars

But you probably be back here searching for better builds when you go harder areas or HM.

As for sword mods, if you only want one and are lazy to switch:

Go sundering. Its advantage over vamp is that you can go afk without any monk support and still stay alive. You will die if you go afk for about 4-5 mins on a vamp sword without monk support.

I Not A Real Doctor · Mar 26, 2008, 04:59 PM // 16:59

To be honest, I think that if you are looking for more DPS you are looking in the wrong place. Your build has much much MUCH MUCH more to do with dps than the mod on your sword. Seriously the hilt will be +/- like 3 dps while the build you're using could be +/- 50 DPS. I know how you feel about your build and I'm pretty sure there alot of people were the same way, however it is time to grow up and make a real skill bar if you are this concerned about dps. I would focus on your build before the freakin mods if you are really concerned about your dps.

jimmyboveto · Mar 26, 2008, 06:28 PM // 18:28

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Originally Posted by rike1

I know everyone thinks the skills are shit, but with the gear I run, i take virtually no damage.

I will swap out ether feast for a better healing skill.

I will also swap out dolyak for something- maybe another attack spell or watch yourselves.

However, with defy pain and elemental resistance, plus 5 sentry signets and a 45/-2 shield, and a +5 armor pommel, I take virtually no damage, while having over 700 health.

And with switching some skills around, i can now deal out a fair amount of damage.

The largest reason you are taking no damage is because the enemy AI attacks the people with the least amount of armor first. You sir, have more armor then you need. Your softies are the ones that are going to be punished. You're a warrior, focus on doing damage, espeically high DPS if you want to take a sword.

Yichi · Mar 26, 2008, 10:27 PM // 22:27

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Originally Posted by masta_yoda

u cant deal out fair amount of damage if ur a warrior with out an IAS...

I fix'd this for you...

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Originally Posted by trx despair

mind posting your build rike? im curious.

scrolling up would have helped...

anyway on to the OP:

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Originally Posted by rike1

I run a W/Me general PvE tank..

ok nvm. I don't think I can help u afterall... but ill try.

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Originally Posted by rike1

I currently use a vampiric hilt because after asking around and not knowing what to use myself, people said it was the best.

Try researching as to why it would be the best. It is only the best if youre actually doing something. With your less than subpar build, your not actually accomplishing enough for vampiric to be useful to you.

Vampiric is best when you either have a spike or a pure dps build. Any alteration to this and vampiric is pretty worthless. For a sword warrior, you're more likely than not going to have a good dps build that can deal a sustained amoutn of damage over a period of time, which combined with conditions, are what swords do best on a warrior.

One of the main keys in which your build lacks is an IAS (Increased attack speed) buff. Something like frenzy, flail, flurry, etc. will double your damage output and adrenaline gained. Also using your elite to best suit you would be far more practical than using it for a self defense buff. Something like crippling slash or dragon slash would be a much better use of your time than Defy pain would be. Elemental resistance is nice, but mostly used for farming or solo builds. You hero monks or the hench monks even, will have things such as prot spirit or word of healing (any half decent human monk thats not shit will prob have both) to help negate/heal the damage you would take. Besides a buff'd dervish or paragon would run right through you having elemental resistance up and would be just as dangerous as an ele boss would be.

Yuhe Ji · Mar 26, 2008, 11:51 PM // 23:51

You should not be running around with vampiric. You only take out the vampiric sword when your team meets a group of enemies.